Clark Howard column: we
recently took our healthy, active, small dog
to our vet for his annual checkup and shots.
he was given a PROHEART injection for guard against
heartworms. within two days he was a very sick
dog. return visits to the vet were made and assessments
were made. we happen to view, on TV, a notice
about the FDA recalling PROHEART medication.
a call to our vet was made, and according to
them, no notice of this recall was sent to them.
we called 5 other vets in our area and each had
received a notice and had pulled the PROHEART
medication. several more visits to our vet for
testing, medications, xrays and an overnight
stay in the emergency room for monitoring, were
administered. Our little dog survived. we paid
approximately $2000.00 in vet bills. the vet
informs us that the makers of PROHEART refuse
and "good faith" compensation to help
defray the cost. is there any agency, government
or otherwise, we might appeal to for retribution
in this case? we feel some negligence may exist,
either with the makers of PROHEART or the vet.
thank you.
dogma My
dog would have turned 5 this month, however he
had to be put down yesterday due to cancer which
had spread throughout his body. We found out
a couple
of weeks ago that my dog had liver cancer which
had spread to the other organs in his abodomen
and
even metasized into his lungs. The vet was very
surprised that such a young dog had this cancer;
we were shocked. When something happens like
this,
owners usually look for an explanation. Why did
my otherwise healthy, well-cared for dog suddenly
become full of cancer at such a young age? My
3
young children and I are all heartbroken. Could
we have prevented this? My first thought was
to
look on the Internet for info on liver cancer
in dogs. I saw that there could be an environmental
link and wondered if it could be due to the mosquito
spraying done in my town. Then I saw the words "liver
problems" and "ProHeart6" in the
same sentences. Wouldn't you know it...that was
the shot my dog received just once in February
2004.
We had always used Interceptor, but at his routine
check-up in FEB, the Vet encouraged us to try
this
new shot b/c it would last for 6 months and save
us trouble and money. Sure, we said, what ever
is
best for our dog. Now, I put it out there to
others...is ProHeart killing our dogs??
Posted by: Amy | December 11, 2004 07:15 PM
_________________
My 7 year old beautiful golden recieved
the proheart6 shot on Oct. 30, 2003 and she died
of lung cancer on Dec. 18, 2004. Coincidence?
I dont think so. Last year I questioned my vet
about this having a link to the proheart6 and
he said no. I still felt there was a link. She
was the best dog in the world and a very healthy
dog....Dont use it. Please
Posted by: Cecilia Pikaard | September 27, 2004
05:16 AM
___________________________
Email 9/04 -- "Tonight we buried Gryffin's
ashes in the back yard. My husband and I along
with our two children shared happy memories of
Gryf and sprinkled some of his ashes along our
side fence. We live in the historic district of
a resort town so we have alot of foot traffic
by our yard. Gryffin loved to run along that fence
barking and scaring the tourists".~~~~~~~~
"A little over a week ago, we lost our 20
month old Great Dane Gryffin. There was no warning,
he'd been fine that morning, then after hearing
him yowl in pain, I found him dying on my son's
bed. This was extremely tramatic for my children
and we are all heart broken"
________________
Email 9/04 --".To whom it may concern,
I would like to tell you that up until yesterday
my pet's, Sabel,death was a mystery. She passed
away in my arms howling in pain on 6/27/03. We
had no clue what was wrong with her. She received
Proheart 6 on 8/19/02. Apprx 1 month after receiving
the injection she developed vomiting and diarrhea
with blood. Our vet said he had no clue after
running many tests. So he sent us to a specialty
vet. He did a bone marrow biopsy to rule out luekemia.
She also received 2 units of blood because her
hemoglobin and platelets were so low. (5.3 and
35) We gave her epogen shots and several other
medications. She seemed like she was getting better
until she started bleeding through her nose. (It
was everywhere including stains on my mattress
where she once slept in peace) No one could tell
us what was wrong. She suffered so long because
we thought we could fight whatever it was. She
was like our child. My fiance and I do not not
have children so Sabel was given everything. My
heart was broken when she died and it was especially
hard because she was only 5 and there was no explanation.
Until now. I am upset that something like that
could be on the market for that long. We finally
decided to get a new pup. My new vet just a couple
months ago offered the Proheart 6 injection to
me. I said no because my new pup would eat anything.
We need to do something. Melissa"
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| Check
out message at Hounds Group
From: “GG
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:43 PM
One thing to avoid is the new ProHeart 6 heartworm
injection.
It has caused deaths, slow & painful ones—awful.
A group is working towards having this taken off
the market
& is trying for a class action suit against
Fort Dodge,
the manufacutuer. Also, collie breeds are very
sensitive any
heartworm medications that contain Invermectin,
so they can’t take this at all.
Unfortunately, it is about vets
& pharmaceutical companies making lots of
money. We’ve all been taught to think that
constantly vaccinating our animals is something
we need to do as good caregivers & vets can
be very forceful & maniplulating into making
us believe we need to do this |
Berner
Digests
ProHeart -- this
Vet's perspective
"Susan Wilkinson"
Fri, 2 May 2003 02:23:54 -0400
ProHeart6 was released in Canada last
year. It was released in the USA in 2001, and in Australia
in 1999 (I think) -- so it does have a history of many
many thousands of doses being administered. For those
that don't know, ProHeart6 is a 6 month injectible heartworm
preventative. The effective ingredient, moxidexin is
micro-encapsulated and designed for slow release over
the 6 month period. It must be carefully reconstituted,
stored, and administered. Both clinics that I work at
have used it, and I myself have administered many doses.
Before using it, as with all new products out, I attended
a seminar, read the literature, researched on-line with
colleagues, and discussed it with my peers. I tend to
be on the sceptical side, and firmly believe in "if
it ain't broke, don't fix it". All medications
have the potential for side effects -- as with most
everything, you have to weigh the benefits against the
risk. Of the greater than 1000 doses that were administered
at "my" 2 clinics, there was one adverse reaction.
Maybe we've been lucky ..... As ProHeart was the only
thing administered to the dog that day, I know that
ProHeart was the culprit. Patient was a middle aged
Shih Tzu, we heartworm tested negative, and I administered
the injection according to label directions. Approximately
30 minutes after returning home, the dog became anxious
and developed some subtle facial swelling. The owners
returned to the clinic, where I administered some antihistamines
and a dose of steroids. Within 20 minutes, the dog was
back to normal. We won't use ProHeart again with this
particular dog! I called the company and talked to the
veterinarian there -- mine was the 3rd such reaction
they had had reported in Canada -- all were relatively
mild, all dogs recovered uneventfully.
ProHeart is not the first heartworm
preventative we recommend, but it is mentioned to owners
as an option. What is great about an injectible is we
can remove the client compliance issue from the mix
-- I know there were no missed doses, no pill spit up
in the corner later, and no product applied incorrectly.
I live in a fairly rural area with a high incidence
of heartworm (highest in Canada). One clinic has a high
percentage of (really wonderful, caring) retirees. The
retirees often opt for ProHeart as they have trouble
remembering the monthly preventative. ProHeart has been
a real boon to the farm dogs -- busy farmers barely
have time to remember to eat, let alone remember to
toss a hearworm preventative at the dog or apply Revolution
-- they LOVE the convenience and knowing that their
dog is protected. Geez, I have a hard enough time remembering
to give it on time for my own crew, and I work with
it everyday! I love not hearing "oh, I've still
got 4 doses left over from last year". I actually
had a client last week who has not heartworm tested
their dog since 1998 -- when I told them as per clinic
policy, I could not prescribe a preventative without
the test, they replied "that's fine, I've got enough
left over to last a couple of years" -- ARG! How
well protected is this dog??
My heart goes out to the boxer and his
family. I truly hope this is a case of urban legend
and that no dog is going through this. I just wanted
to contribute my 2 cents to hopefully forestall the
knee jerk reaction we all have when hearing stories
like this.
sue(Aeryn with Devyn & Rowyn)
RE: Is this true?
Rose Tierney
Fri, 02 May 2003 10:29:44 -0400
Hi,
Sometimes it pays to be stuck in your ways! I refuse
to use new preventative products or vaccines until they
have been in general use for at least two years. I use
established protocols for heartworm prevention and will
treat for fleas as and when I have a problem with them.
Some products are a cure all for a lot of things but
I can't see the point of using a drug that treats ear
mites and sarcoptic mange and fleas etc when I don't
have those problems with my dogs. My dogs are not paid
to be guinea pigs!
Rose T.
Re: Proheart 6
Tracey
Sat, 3 May 2003 08:02:21 -0700 (PDT)
Sue & Andrea, thanks for your emails on Proheart,
from a vet's perspective. I tend to NOT beleive
things posted on the internet, you never know
their true reason for posting -- for all we know
that site was posted by a Proheart competitor
-- or just someone that has an agenda, as we all
know, Proheart does NOT do anything for fleas,
ticks, or mosquitoes. Not only that, I followed
the link that claimed the USDA had a warning on
Proheart, and could not find it. Maybe I didn't
look hard enough, or maybe the owner of the website
just hoped people would believe him/her?
As you said, anyone can have a
reaction to any sort of shot. I personally use
Proheart 6 -- I love it, my dogs have not had
reactions. I am one that is ALWAYS forgetting
to give monthly pills and as I live in the midwest
I know it is very important to keep my beloved
pets protected against heartworms. (Oh yeah, the
heartworm poster in my vet's office, with all
the counties in Illinois, and all the occurances
of heartworm, has a BERNER on it!! Funny, on girl
at the counter didn't know what Beau was, and
the poster was right in her face!! hahaha)
People also reacted this way with
human vaccinations (some get/got sick, some died)
... there's always going to be people that react
-- but in the long run, what do we have?? No small
pox, no rubella, no measles, no polio ... with
our pets we don't have as common of occurances
of parvo and distemper. What is the occurance
of pets reacting to parvo shots?? The trade of
is worth it, as I'm sure Sue and Andrea can attest
to .. a dog afflicted with parvo is horrible,
just as a dog afflicted with heartworms is horrible.
Not a way to die, not a way to live, treatments
are costly and very hard on the pets. (I recently
saw 2 puppies with parvo at the emergency clinic
when I had to take Beau with pnemonia ... it was
NOT pretty). I feel better knowing my babies are
protected against everything, taking as much of
the human error factor out. (and boy do I have
lots of the error factor!!)
I'm just glad my 2 haven't ever
reacted to proheart ... I'll keep up with it,
and will do what I always do after any injection,
watch them closely for reactions, and be prepared
if they do.
Thanks,
Tracey & Beau and Kjersti |
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I-Dog
Mike Sprunger LaGrange Police
Dept. (Unregistered Guest)
Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 12:16 pm:
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It has been my dream to be a K-9 Handler for the
ten years I've been in Law Enforcement. My dream
finally came true this year. I got my beautiful
partner in March 2004. He was full of life, a
real handful, and everything that I dreamed of
as a partner, at least for the first week of K-9
training. On Monday of week two, I took him to
the Vet for a routine check-up, per my contract
with the school. He was given a clean bill of
health by the Vet. He said he was very healthy
and looked like a great partner. He gave him the
Proheart6 shot the same day. Two days later, my
partner quit eating, lays around and just doesn't
have the energy to even hold his head up, let
alone going to work and protecting me. This has
gone on for two weeks now, and about 10 trips
to the Vet. Two different Vets deny that the shot
has anything to do with how my partner is now
acting. They said that it is "just a coincidence"
that he got sick after getting the shot! He gets
slower and slower each day. Maci is my partner
and it is absolutely killing me to see MY PARTNER
run down and sick the way he is after seeing how
excited he was to go to work prior to the shot!!
He was absolutely, 100% healthy and energetic
before he got the Proheart6 shot and now he can
barely hold his head up.
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June '04 (RE:
TV News) The last sentence in the tv spot noted
steady increase in use of the product by vets. The
reason vets are being economically force to use
injectable heart worm medication is because people
can buy other non injectable heartworm product over
the internet now. OZ has made the oral and topical
hw macrolid products over the counter and it is
expected the FDA will also do so soon in the USA.
Vets soon will have no drug or no annual vaccines
to force clients to return for well visits unless
they switch to injectable heart worm medication.
dvm from Oz |
Advisory
Please do not believe what the company tells you.
It is all a lie so that they can make sales.
I am Sandy's friend Linda living in Singapore.
One year ago February I took my beautiful red MSH
female and my black/tan dachshund to the vet here.
He suggested the same thing, proheart.
My female, Roxie, the beautiful red within 3 minutes
started foaming at the mouth, started seizures and
then went into cardiac arrest.
Sam (Sandy) I am sure recall my reaction to that.
Praise God I was still standing in front of the
vet. Dr. Lye nearly had a cardiac arrest himself.
Dr. Lye called the pharma company and they told
him they have never had a bad report on the proheart.
The same week a couple took their 2 year old golden
retriever to see Dr. Lye and requested the proheart.
After informing them of what happened to my Roxie
they still wanted it, thinking I had a small dog.
Their retriever died within ten minutes. Dr. Lye
flew to the pharma company to meet with them and
was told that he was the only one having problems
(do I believe that one???? NO).
Sorry my friend, I took over your email. But,
I still get the shakes when I think of how close
we came to losing our little girl.
Linda
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Dogmania
Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 4:25 am
Hi,
This story is about River. His nightmare begins in
july of 2002. when he recieved the proheart 6 shot.
Within a few days we noticed sores appearing in his
mouth & on his tongue. some the size of a quarter.
We took him to the vet where he did some blood test.
liver enzymes were elevated and blood counts weren't
quite right. so he referred us to the university of
madison wisconsin teaching hospital. they did more test
and decided he was having an allergice reaction to something
but would not commit to it being the proheart shot.
This is the only shot River had in over a year.. He
was very healthy.
They started him on an antibiotic and prednizone. over
the next several months. his neck started to swell,
they had to do surgery to remove a saliva gland, after
he was starting to improve, he had to have some teeth
remove and his fang in front broke in half. at times
he seemed to stare into space and we could not get his
attention until he just came out of it himself. he just
wasnt him self. his immune system was getting weaker
and weaker the prednizone made him gain so much weight
he was now 160 lbs.
it is about six or seven months later, they are taking
him off prednizone, he now has sores on both back legs
that have eaten a hole to the bone and are oozing, we
put hot towels soaked in epson salts to give him some
relief, nothing seems to be working they thought the
surgery would clear up the sores in his mouth, but they
all came back, we were seeing him die right before our
eyes and we couldn't stop it.
one night i was massaging his legs and notice three
lumps on the size of a golf ball, it seems they just
appeared over nite. he also started drooling blood,
we knew we had to let him go so on April 24th 2003 we
made the decision to send River to his final home where
there would be no more pain. When i think back it makes
me ill to think we may have caused him to suffer longer
than we should because we didn't want to lose him.
River was 4 weeks old when we adopted him he was a
malmute/wolf mix.
he was loving loyal, loved to go camping, swimming,
ride on the golf cart, ride with the neighbor on his
4 wheeler. he was a very active dog until that july
in 2002. He is very much missed by us his family and
everyone who knew him.
It is in Rivers memory that i feel this story had to
be told and our hearts go out to all you who lost or
have an ill pet because of this shot.
I wish we would have done our homework on this before
we gave it to River. he was 5 years old when he finally
went home.
Please do not use this shot....
| Dogmania
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:29 pm Post
I just lost my oldest baby Cutter. Her systems
are exactly as described from Proheart. There
is quite a bit of info out there. Another site
is http://concernedvet.netfirms.com
Cutter's reaction was about 3 months after her
shot. She began acting like she had a cold and
went completely down in about 3 week and we had
to put her down after the autoimmune amenia began
and she had complete kidney failure.
I'm telling everyone I know with any dog not
to get the proheart.
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| Dogmania
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:57 pm
I was both distraught and relieved to see a news
item last night about the heartworm prevention
shot being responsible for dog deaths. We had
a rescued coonhound mix named Hoover for about
4 years, and he was a pretty healthy dog, although
he took phenobarbitol daily for seizures ever
since we got him. Our vet would monitor his kidney
function and whatever else they check when a dog
is on drugs We always feed super premium dog food,
spare no expense when it comes to our dogs' care.
We moved to a rural area and switched to a closer
vet. On our first visit, he suggested the 6 month
shot instead of monthly tablets. Said it was just
as safe, less hassle. We agreed to it, and Hoover
died exactly two weeks later, of supposed liver
failure. He was a little lethargic after the shot,
but after about 10 days, it was clear that something
was wrong. He was just lying around and I observed
him vomiting. We made an appointment immediately
with our "new" vet, loaded him up, and
by the time we got to the vet, he had to be lifted
from the vehicle, and refused to stand. X-rays
showed an enormous mass that appeared to be attached
to his liver, and he was bleeding internally.
They referred us to a hospital about 20 miles
away for an ultrasound, and by the time we got
there, he had to be carried in. While they were
prepping him, he arrested. That was over a year
ago, and I'm crying as I type this. At the time,
we quizzed our vet about the connection between
the shot and his death, and they said they had
never heard of any problem or deaths due to the
shot. We never had a good feeling about that vet
after that, and switched back to our old vet despite
the drive. After seeing the news story, I am convinced
that the shot was responsible for Hoover's demise.
Fortunately, our other two dogs seemed to have
no reaction, and one of them had been heartworm
positive when we rescued him, so I would have
expected that he might be the more fragile one.
I went to the manufacturers site for Proheart6
and will be filing a complaint with them. I doubt
it will do much of anything, probably not even
make me feel better. Makes you feel guilty when
your actions are responsible for your sweet and
trusting pet's death, regardless of your intentions.
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AOL Message Board - MsgId: 164795:162037
- 11/13/2004 Maggie here! I didn't mean to offend
any of you Californians but you do have a rep of
being "a little off the wall". As for
your wonderful weather almost year round, we have
beautiful weather here in San Antonio too, as they
say, "Don't like it, hang around a while and
it will change". Cost of living and the possibility
of dropping off into the ocean with the BIG quake
keep my fanny here on solid ground. Remember, PJ
and I are big fans of Revolution. You need to use
whatever you are comfortable with. The only heartworm
I'm unhappy with is that Proheart 6, the 6 month
injection. I had used it on Abner, a Shih Tzu, twice.
The day after he got his last shot he was at the
vets with renal failure. Turns out the injections
have been discontinued due to the fact of them causing
renal failure. In most cases this was almost emedate
after the injection, Abner was in distress the evening
of the same day. Needless to say, Abner came home
in an urn, there was nothing to save him. It just
kills me to think that if I had picked another method
Abner might still be here, he was only 4 yrs. old.
The vet couldn't understand at the time why his
renal system was shutting down. I didn't know of
the problem with the injections until last week
when PJ was due for his check-up. I asked the vet
about the Proheart and he dropped a bomb on me.
I was so sorry for Abner and felt so guilty, I felt
his passing was all my fault. For those who have
used the injections, be alert, watch for problems,
everyone else, please pass the info on.
Maggie & PJ |
dogmania
Proheart 6 Reaction Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003
I took my Great Dane to the vet last weekend
for a checkup and to get vaccinations. The dog
was 7 years old and in EXCELLENT health. The vet
even commented that he was in better shape than
dogs half his age.
He received a CV Booster, a Bordetella booster
and a ProHeart injection. That was on Saturday.He
was taken to be boarded on Sunday as we were going
out of town. The kennel has been keeping him since
he was a pup. He was fine on Sunday, but on Monday
he was lethargic and had diarea and vomitting.
He was given diarea medicine from the kennel.
He was worse on Tuesday morning and they took
the dog to the vet that did the vaccinations.
They put him on IV for fluids and by the end of
Tuesday they said that he was doing better and
called the kennel to come too get the dog. The
kennel was not comfortable picking up the dog
that soon as he still had a line in for fluids.
He was kept overnight at the vet.
When the vet arrived the next morning, he was
DEAD! Looking at the threads in this forum, it
appears to be a symptom of the heartworm shots.
When the vet did a necropsy, they said he had
massive infection and some blood in the abdomin.
This is stange since the temp was taken at the
vet on Sat, at the kennel on Monday and several
times at the vet on Tuesday and he was never running
a temp.
I don't know how a perfectly healthy dog that
has never missed a heartwork treatment and never
had any medical problems could die within 3 days
of a full examination.
Anyone with information on what we can do to keep
this from happening to any other beloved pets,
please comment.
It is obvious the vets are not going to tell us
anything that would interupt their revenue stream.
A comment about the kennel. It is extreamly clean
and love their guests as much as the owners. They
were devistated and as far as I am concerned did
the right thing for our dog when he needed it.
Regards,
JT
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dogma
My black lab. was given a proheart6 shot in june 2004.
Her name is Poco she will be 11 Jan. 26 2005. I always
had her up to date on all her shot. She is very special
to me and love her. And now I have to worry for her
life now. And I'am very mad. We should'nt have to worred
for takeing care of our loved dog.
I have had to take her to the Vet. 4 time from Blood
in the urine to low enzyme in the digestive system and
so on.
So I feel that something need to be done, so they can't
do this to our dog we love so much. A class action Suit
anainst the com. would be a good start. carolneville69@hotmail.com
Posted by: Carol Neville | October 19, 2004 04:27 PM
__________________________
My Vet seemed to be pushing this drug very aggressivly
when it first come out.
It seemed like a great idea, every six months
seemd alot easier. Now the recall. I called my vet wanting
a refund. They said the drug has done its job!!! Yah
what kind of job??
I feel like my dog has been put in grave danger and
this company who makes big money off of us trusting
pet owners should reimburse anyone who has used this
drug!!!
HOW CAN WE GET A PETITION GOING FOR THIS?
Posted by: Larry | September 27, 2004 08:28 AM
______________________
My maltese was injected with proheart
6 in June. In July she collapsed. We got her to the
vet and he thought she was just hypoglycemic. By nightfall
she was shaking all over and not eating. I was giving
her karo syrup for the low sugar. I decided to take
her to the emergency hospital. $1500 later my dog was
diagnosed with addisons disease. Not to worry we can
take care of that, all she needs is a monthly shot.
In august we got her monthly shot of florinef. Two days
later bright red blood started pooring out of her rectum.
My husband and I rushed her again to the hospital. Today
she is home, eating and having a good day. The vet said
this is not related to proheart 6. We have always given
her heartworm medication. She is our child and we plan
for her to get the best of care. If anyone has information
I would be interested in knowing. Prior to this summer
she has been healthy. She is eight years old.
Posted by: joy | September 23, 2004 07:45 PM
______________________
I am appalled that this recall has happened
and no one new any dangers of this drug. My dog received
his third shot 3 days before the recall and now I have
years of worry ahead of me. I am disabled and my little
dog means more to me than I can verbalize. I talked
to my vet and called several others and none claimed
to know anything about the problems with the drug. My
vet stated that he will do blood work re: liver and
other long term problems and I should be reimbursed
but that is nothing compared to the worry I will endure.
Drug companies are the scum of the earth in my mind.
I have Multiple Sclerosis and my doctor was pumping
me full of a drug that is now involved in a class action
suit regarding it's use for my situation. Who can we
trust anymore? No one that is who. Money is the bottom
line, nothing else matters to these people. I will NEVER
trust anything that any doctor tells me again, medical
or veterinarian. Thank you for letting me vent. I am
scared to death for my little dog who never hurt anyone
and has been a great sourse of company and love for
me. God forgive them, I don't know if I can.
karenfuncannon@yahoo.com
Posted by: Karen Funcannon | September 8, 2004 09:31
AM
___________________
Dogomania
was the one who got to break the news to my vet today
(as I was hoping). He was sure I was misunderstanding
something.
We may not have to wonder too long about how many dogs
were affected. One very upset owner showed up at the
clinic today after seeing/hearing about the ProHeart
recall. Apparently, this dog recently died after having
some similar symptoms as reported (wherever he saw it)
from PH6. This guy is scheduled to meet with the vet
tomorrow. Since the vet didn't even know there was a
recall before I told him, I have no clue how much he's
tried to find out and I can't imagine what he's going
to say to this owner. I'm sure this owner is only the
first of many more to come forward.
Still, the vet is sure that PH6 isn't the problem.
He said the dog was having problems (seizures maybe?)
prior to the shot. I'm thinking maybe a dog with problems
especially shouldn't have had the shot, but the reps
push it so strongly and dismiss complaints as being
unfounded.
The vet's wife and one tech were outraged and called
the whole thing stupid since "we" have never
had a problem (how do they know?).
I love my vet, but sometimes I believe he relies too
heavily on what the reps tell him. He kind of dismissed
my complaint of Advantix causing a rash on not one,
but TWO of my dogs since the rep told him she'd never
heard of a complaint. I wish he didn't trust these reps
implicitly. He's so cynical about everything else.
My best friend's dog died about 12 hours after receiving
a PH6 shot over a year ago. At the time, we never even
realized PH6 could have been the cause since the vet
thought the dog had been poisoned. I'm sure now the
dog WAS poisoned, but PH6 was the poison.
| dogmania
Hi,
This story is about River. His
nightmare begins in july of 2002. when he recieved
the proheart 6 shot. Within a few days we noticed
sores appearing in his mouth & on his tongue.
some the size of a quarter. We took him to the
vet where he did some blood test. liver enzymes
were elevated and blood counts weren't quite right.
so he referred us to the university of madison
wisconsin teaching hospital. they did more test
and decided he was having an allergice reaction
to something but would not commit to it being
the proheart shot. This is the only shot River
had in over a year.. He was very healthy.
They started him on an antibiotic and prednizone.
over the next several months. his neck started
to swell, they had to do surgery to remove a saliva
gland, after he was starting to improve, he had
to have some teeth remove and his fang in front
broke in half. at times he seemed to stare into
space and we could not get his attention until
he just came out of it himself. he just wasnt
him self. his immune system was getting weaker
and weaker the prednizone made him gain so much
weight he was now 160 lbs.
it is about six or seven months
later, they are taking him off prednizone, he
now has sores on both back legs that have eaten
a hole to the bone and are oozing, we put hot
towels soaked in epson salts to give him some
relief, nothing seems to be working they thought
the surgery would clear up the sores in his mouth,
but they all came back, we were seeing him die
right before our eyes and we couldn't stop it.
one night i was massaging his legs and notice
three lumps on the size of a golf ball, it seems
they just appeared over nite. he also started
drooling blood, we knew we had to let him go so
on April 24th 2003 we made the decision to send
River to his final home where there would be no
more pain. When i think back it makes me ill to
think we may have caused him to suffer longer
than we should because we didn't want to lose
him.
River was 4 weeks old when we
adopted him he was a malmute/wolf mix.
he was loving loyal, loved to go camping, swimming,
ride on the golf cart, ride with the neighbor
on his 4 wheeler. he was a very active dog until
that july in 2002. He is very much missed by us
his family and everyone who knew him.
It is in Rivers memory that i feel this story
had to be told and our hearts go out to all you
who lost or have an ill pet because of this shot.
I wish we would have done our homework on this
before we gave it to River. he was 5 years old
when he finally went home.
Please do not use this shot....
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Berner
Digests
RE: Proheart 6 -- assessing
risk generally and specifically
"Nancy Melone"
Sat, 3 May 2003 00:33:06 -0700
The link http://www.proheart6.com/release.htm
may be of use to those who do use Proheart. The
following link to the FDA Adverse Drug Reaction
reports may also be of use http://www.fda.gov/cvm/index/ade/adetoc.htm
to those who wish to investigate other drugs.
My dogs are NOT on Proheart6 - so I am not speaking
from experience with this drug. Rather I am speaking
from the perspective of someone who likes to analyze
the meaning of data (and the implications of their
absence). This emotional case description regarding
an adverse reaction allegedly to Proheart provides
the perfect opportunity to talk about the risks
of making decisions based on a single, vivid case.
Virtually ALL DRUGS have EFFECTS/SIDE EFFECTS
(in part, that is why we use them). When calibrating
the risks and the benefits of any treatment protocol
we need to remember this. We often forget that
there are also risks in NOT using drugs. My understanding
is that the 6-month injection delivery system
in Proheart6 (moxidectin) was developed to improve
owner compliance because: (1) many, many dog owners
forget to administer the monthly heartworm tablets,
thereby putting their dogs at risk and (2) heartworm
is endemic in many regions of this country. According
to the FDA report, it is found in all 50 states
with rates of infection ranging from 5% to 45%.
Again, I am not advocating Proheart6, but rather
commenting on an aspect of risk assessment that
may have been forgotten. Based on a very cursory
reading of some of the reported adverse reactions
on animals taking this drug (oral and subcutaneous
(injectible) versions), in several cases these
reactions could be attributed to drug overdose.
Again, the exact details of this drug are less
important to me than the general principle of
how we look at assessing risk in making these
and similar decisions for our pets.
To intelligently discuss Proheart6 (or any of
the drugs that allegedly protect against heartworm),
we need to know the rate of adverse reactions
for the alternative drugs designed to prevent
heartworm infestation -- including the older tablet
formulations that many of us currently use. We
also need to assess the risk of DOING NOTHING
(no drugs). According to the incident report given
in the Proheart link above, adverse events (note,
these are not necessarily deaths) reported for
Proheart6 represent 0.030% of total doses sold
to veterinarians [Yes, "sold" is not
the number that we would really like to know -
we really want the number of doses that were "administered"
- but as a researcher I can tell you that the
second number is a much harder number to capture
and capture accurately].
I am not an FDA researcher (far from it), but
3 adverse reactions (not necessarily deaths) out
of 10,000 would constitute a "statistical
rare event" in the fields with which I am
familiar. Statistically rare but emotionally vivid
events often cause human beings to fall victim
to well-documented decision making/judgment errors.
These errors revolve around how humans interpret
the significance of a vivid but statistically
rare event. [NOTE: Statistically rare but vivid
events are events that have an extremely low probability
of happening, but they may be pretty scary if
they do.] Basically, the problem is that humans
often over-emphasize rare events in ways that
would lead them to ignore benefits and inflate
probability and risk. Panic-infused reports on
the Internet of a single vivid case may exacerbate
the problem even more. My point here is that we
do not want to fall into the trap of overreacting
to what is on the face of it a low probability
event. Again, I am not advocating the use of this
drug, but I am advocating using reasonable decision
making processes in the interpretation of data
and making decisions.
Deciding to use or not to use a drug is a very
complex decision -- NOT something that some stranger
on the Internet can or should decide for you.
Typically, more is known about side effects of
older drugs than newer ones (although after some
period of drug use, that difference is insignificant).
Furthermore, each pet owner has a different risk
preference structure (i.e., a different comfort
level in their ability to tolerate risk of an
adverse reaction). Similarly, one person's dogs
may face very different disease risks than another
person's -- depending upon several factors --
e.g., the geographic region in which they live,
whether they live in rural or more highly-populated
areas and so on. One also needs to take the health
status of the individual dog and the habits/dependability
of the dog owner into consideration. The bottom
line is that the protocol that you use for preventing
heartworm in your dog may not be the same one
that I decide to use for mine. Both of our decisions
may be perfectly logical and appropriate given
our individual circumstances. Before we jump to
conclusions about this drug (or any therapeutic
treatment), we need to appropriately assess ALL
the risks and benefits of use and non-use within
the contexts that we and our dogs operate.
I am neither an advocate nor a nay sayer on Proheart6.
As someone who knows her way around analyzing
data and assessing risk, it is my belief that
pet owners need to be informed consumers, not
knee-jerk decision makers who base their actions
on a single, albeit vivid adverse incident that
may have causal explanations other than the drug
at hand. Proving causality (i.e., this drug caused
that reaction) is much more difficult than these
vivid stories imply. In research, we use various
forms of experimental designs to help us establish
causal linkages and even then, it is very hard
work. What we dream in our experimental-design
heads can often not be achieved in our data-based
reality -- so we are left with weaker forms of
causal proof.
Like it or not, life demands that we constantly
analyze our risks/returns -- we do it (knowingly
or unknowingly) with every decision we make --
whenever we drive a car, walk down a dark stairway,
take a plane, jog in the park, take an aspirin,
kiss a baby, chew on a pencil --- yes, and even
when we eat that double-dip ice cream sundae with
whipping cream and extra nuts on top instead of
working out on the treadmill!
Nancy Melone, Ph.D.
Mars, PA
proHeart 6 - injection
"Mark Mohapp"
Sat, 3 May 2003 09:49:25 -0500
I was very sorry to here the posting
about the dog having a reaction to this. My brother
is a veterinarian who refuses to use the injection
on his own dogs! His philosophy is - if their
is a bad reaction - how do you get the stuff out
of the dog since it is made to lodge in fat cells
for slow release.
My own thoughts include it is
too new of a product, why put poison in a dog
that takes months to evacuate, and how hard is
it to give dogs a pill once a month. There are
some people who recommend having a blood test
done every 6 months for heart worm as opposed
to dosing a dog at all. The theory being if you
test twice a year IF something shows up it is
still treatable. (I personally don't know enough
to decide if this is safe but it is a thought)
Mark Mohapp
mmohapp@wi.rr.com
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Old
English Sheepdog board
My 18 month old OES went into shock about 10
minutes after receiving her DHLPP, Corona, Rabies
and ProHeart on June 22, 2004. They took blood
for a heartworm test prior to the inoculations
which came back negative. I chose to have them
done at a weekly shot clinic held at a nationwide
chain because the cost was about half of what
my regular vet charges for the same shots. I had
recently had a full check-up with my regular vet
during a visit for an ear infection and she had
checked out fine. I felt it was safe to go to
the clinic and at the same time prudent to pay
half the price. Luckily, the receptionist was
slow at check out as I was still in the building
when she went down. Otherwise, she could have
died in my car on the ride home.
The first indication that something was terribly
wrong was when I heard someone snicker in the
waiting room. I looked down at my feet and discovered
I was standing in a huge puddle of urine and my
pup was sitting in it. Convincing her to move
seemed difficult. I thought I was imagining this.
Embarrassed, I quickly began cleaning up the puddle
with the roll of paper towels the receptionist
provided. As I finished up I noticed a single
fresh poop on the floor next to my pup who was
then laid out cold. No one in the packed waiting
room said anything to me. My pup lay on her side,
tongue hanging out, next to her feces while I
cleaned up the urine puddle. My only hope is that
she went down moments before I noticed and those
watching were too engrossed with my inept cleaning
abilities. I stand by my belief in the supremacy
of dog over human and I will never understand
human beings. As soon as I noticed the poop I
knew their was a serious problem and I began screaming
"My dog is in shock. My dog is in shock.
Get someone out here now!!!" Finally, in
what seemed like an eternity, three vet techs
ran out, scooped her up, and ran back to their
surgery. There, they shaved nearly half of her
front leg for the saline I.V., gave her steroids
and a Benydryl type product and then installed
a catheter. I intensely watched the faces of the
techs and vet through the window in the surgery
door as I could not see my pup. Thank God they
knew what to do and when to do it. I am grateful
for their skills in this area. She slowly came
out of the shock. I was numb at this point. Once
my baby was safe at home, in my bed, I cried over
the near loss of my sweet, innocent Sheepie. She
received the shots at 2:30 p.m. and we walked
out of the clinic at 7 p.m.
I cannot begin to express how guilty I have felt
for not first investigating results other dogs
had to ProHeart. The vet and her intern both professed
it's safety as I questioned them before the injections
were given. They began the inoculations by giving
her an oral wormer, part of the ProHeart package.
I had not been told about that part. As they poured
it down her throat, I argued that there was no
diagnostic reason for it. They said it could not
hurt her. She immediately threw it up. My pup
had had a fecal exam a short time ago and it was
negative. I felt stupid for going along with it.
I have subsequently learned that my usual vet
does not believe in the safety of ProHeart or
use it. The FDA's ruling appears to validate my
vet's understanding of the situation. The day
cost me nearly four times what it would have cost
at my vet's office. The future cost to my babies
health and psyche are still unknown. The following
day I took her to my usual vet for a full exam
to determine any damage not visually detectable.
None was found at that time. My vet told me problems,
though rare can show up a long time after the
fact. I force myself to be optimistic about the
future.
I am happy to hear of the FDA's action against
ProHeart. This product was obviously not tested
thoroughly enough since so many problems have
been reported. The clinic vet concluded my pup
probably had an allergic reaction to the Lepto.
My regular vet and I thought otherwise but did
not report the incident. I did not even think
of it. I am angry at Fort Dodge for covertly taking
advantage of my pup. I am angry at the clinic
vet for not explaining all the risks associated
with ProHeart. I am angry at myself for simple
stupidity. I have learned to: no longer take the
word of any vet as gospel, not cut corners where
the health of my baby is concerned and to investigate
everything that goes into, on, or around my puppy. |
Dogmania
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 4:14 pm
I took my Great Dane to the vet last weekend for a
checkup and to get vaccinations. The dog was 7 years
old and in EXCELLENT health. The vet even commented
that he was in better shape than dogs half his age.
He received a CV Booster, a Bordetella booster and
a ProHeart injection. That was on Saturday.
He was taken to be boarded on Sunday as we were going
out of town. The kennel has been keeping him since he
was a pup. He was fine on Sunday, but on Monday he was
lethargic and had diarea and vomitting. He was given
diarea medicine from the kennel.
He was worse on Tuesday morning and they took the dog
to the vet that did the vaccinations. They put him on
IV for fluids and by the end of Tuesday they said that
he was doing better and called the kennel to come too
get the dog. The kennel was not comfortable picking
up the dog that soon as he still had a line in for fluids.
He was kept overnight at the vet.
When the vet arrived the next morning, he was DEAD!
Looking at the threads in this forum, it appears to
be a symptom of the heartworm shots.
When the vet did a necropsy, they said he had massive
infection and some blood in the abdomin. This is stange
since the temp was taken at the vet on Sat, at the kennel
on Monday and several times at the vet on Tuesday and
he was never running a temp.
I don't know how a perfectly healthy dog that has never
missed a heartwork treatment and never had any medical
problems could die within 3 days of a full examination.
Anyone with information on what we can do to keep this
from happening to any other beloved pets, please comment.
It is obvious the vets are not going to tell us anything
that would interupt their revenue stream.
A comment about the kennel. It is extreamly clean and
love their guests as much as the owners. They were devistated
and as far as I am concerned did the right thing for
our dog when he needed it.
Regards,
JT
Dogmania
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:44 pm
I'm new to this site, please be gentle, I'm on
the edge.
I have found some good information thru links,
and several letters from people who have lost
their precious dogs shortly after receiving a
ProHeart 6 injection at this site: www.Proheartinformation.com
On May 23, 2003 one of our honeys, Newport, had
to be put to sleep. Newp was only 8 yrs old, a
playful English Springer Spaniel, who became sick
one month after his 2nd ProHeart 6 injection,
diagnosed with cancer. 2 days ago was the first
time I'd heard anything about the problems with
ProHeart 6, needless to say we're still in shock.
We have two other ESS who have had the ProHeart
6 injections, and we are in a panic. We understand
that there is no way to flush this junk from their
systems, all that we can do is learn as much as
possible.
If anyone finds any information, please pass it
on to us.
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Subject: My
experience with Pro-Heart injection ...
Date: March 4, 2004 at 5:35 am PST: About two years
ago, my vet recommended I try the Pro-Heart injection
on Maddie (we'd had a scare because I had mixed
up on whether or not I had given her her heartworm
pill one month, so I brought her in to get tested.)
Anyway, he assured me it was "100 percent safe
and a lot more convenient."
So, I had him give it to Maddie. The next day she
started stopping and sitting down every ten feet
or so on our walks. (And this is a very bouncy dog
who loooves to run). At first I thought she had
a burr or an injured paw, but no. This continued
the next day too and I took her back to the vet,
who couldn't find anything wrong with her. (He did
another full exam for free even though he had just
done her full annual exam.) I asked if it could
be the Pro-Heart injection, since that was the only
variable that had changed in her life recently,
and the vet said absolutely not, no way, couldn't
be the Pro-Heart. He suggested that it might be
something psychological - like she was being stubborn
or something.
It took Maddie months to get to the point where
she'd do a whole walk without stopping and sitting
down and I've always been convinced it was that
Pro-Heart (and this was before I started hearing
the negative reports.) Based on that experience
I've never given her another Pro-Heart nor our other
dog. Don't trust it.
And I wish vets wouldn't be so cavalier about assuring
you something's safe...
BG |
| I am not sure if anyone still reads this page,
however I will post objections that I strongly
feel about ProHeart here.
ProHeart6 and ProHeart12, in theory, are fabulous
products. If the results were as clearcut as
the products' manunfacturer intended (Fort Dodge),
then I would be the first one taking my canine
to work to be injected. However, this voluntary
recall taken by Fort Dodge has led me to believe
that, once again, that big business rules over
the health of animals. I had a debate with someone
who was in undergraduate program studying biology
proceeding to veterinary medicine about ProHeart,
this was before the recall. She seemed to have
kept with reports of ProHeart. As I debated,
her biggest selling point was that a Fort Dodge
associate had come to Rutgers University (here
in New Jersey) and proceeded to tell the students
it was safe. If you are making a huge salary
from pharmaceuticals..of course you will say
the product is safe.
Now proceeding on to the negative aspects of
ProHeart6:
For one thing, if your dog does an allergic
reaction to the medication- think about it: you
have just provided your dog with six months worth
of heartworm prevention.
It is time released over a period of six months.
I know with heartworm prevention you could give
your animals in excess of over 90 times its weight
in pills and it is fine, so I am not sure exactly
what to do if your dog is allergic and has an
anaphalatic reaction. Consult your veterinarian
immediately.
Secondly, it is called practicing medicine for
a reason. Longitudial studies are valuable -
too bad the length of such studies do not go
on for decades. In the meanwhile, I do understand
it is important to release medication asap to
help animals, in fact, I agree. However, when
many cases are beginning to be reported and it
turns from tens to hundreds, would it not be
beneficial to address the newest statistics?
Of course not - Ft. Dodge is a business. A voluntary
recall means "1000 users of this medication
have now been seriously affected" (aka fatal).
Why so high?
CONSIDER THE IDEA YOU CAN GET HEARTWORM FROM
PROHEART:
Example: "Max", your newly adopted
dog has never been tested or put on prevention.
The odds of hw being positive are higher in moist
climates, hot weather, and polluted parts of
the country.
Max (without your conscience knowledge) was bitten
July 14, 2005 by an infected mosquito. It takes
6 months for a positive heartworm to show on
a test, but may catch "baby" heartworms.
You test Max on November 14, 2005 (4 months later).
You get the results - lets say same day - as
most veterinarians follow this procedure. You
inject ProHeart into Max the same day (November
14th). Now, ProHeart6 is PREVENTION. In other
words, anything that bites Max after November
14th will surely be covered, but not prior to.
So, mid-January Max has heartworm. You don't
know about it until (if your lucky) you get concerned
about a 'cough' or he dies.
Oops, I guess Fort Dodge did not mention that.
I understand there are ups and downs to everything.
Especially for Shelties and Collies who have
liver problems, because of an ingredient in heartworm
pills- I believe it to be Ivermectin.
So to that extent, yes it does have its benefits.
My dog is on Interceptor : Prevention of Heartworm
ALSO roundworm, hookworm, and whipworm.
These once-a-month doses will benefit in that
they will kill off any growing heartworms. Poor
Max, poor owner -neither knew. Who would have
thought?
The pills cost about the same at my place of
employment
Actually, I've heard vets say, even some that
perform ProHeart6, that they would not give PH6
to any animal unless they are perfectly healthy,
have been tested, not elder, have no past history
of seizures.
So until your dog dies of ProHeart, will you
recommend ProHeart? The choice is yours - but
explain the truth of its working process. Then
let the owner decide.
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